Friday 20 April 2012

Why Newcastle fans won't shed a tear if Aston Villa go down

This was just one of the 'hilarious' banners on show at Villa Park as Newcastle were relegated
Sunday, 24 May 2009 is a date etched in the memories of most Newcastle United fans.

It was the culmination of a season of mismanagement from owner Mike Ashley and pitiful effort from the club's 'star' players.

Supporters watched on in despair at Villa Park as Newcastle slipped into the Championship after a 1-0 defeat, with the future looking extremely bleak.

Less than three years later though and Magpies fans can now look back on the day as a necessary pill they had to swallow.

The club has undergone three hugely successful seasons since that fateful day, starting with their march to the Championship title and then last season's comfortable mid-table Premier League finish.

This campaign has been beyond most fans' dreams as Newcastle have deservedly fought their way into fifth place with just five games remaining, with a top four finish still a distinct possibility under Alan Pardew.

The pain of the relegation still remains but fans can almost look back on that spring day of 2009 and smile.

Would their club be where it is today without being relegated that day?

Chris Hughton deserves much of the credit for the success the club has had since then, as his calm and sensible management the following season allowed the club to bounce back to the top-flight at the first attempt.

Big-name players and high earners like Michael Owen, Mark Viduka, Geremi and Damien Duff were among those to jump ship in the aftermath of relegation and the club was a lot better for it.

A season in the Championship allowed the likes of Fabricio Coloccini, Jonas Gutierrez, Kevin Nolan, Andy Carroll and Jose Enrique to blossom and settle, and all have left a lasting impression on the club.

Coloccini and Gutierrez continue to shine in black-and-white, Nolan contributed goals aplenty including a hat-trick against the club's bitter rivals Sunderland, Carroll eventually departed and left the club £35million richer and Enrique developed into one of the best left-backs Newcastle has seen, certainly in the last 20 years.

There were many other success stories in that Championship campaign and that has continued over the last two seasons with new stars who have thrived on Tyneside.

Relegation may have been less than three years ago but Newcastle fans have had so much reason to celebrate since then that it seems a lot longer ago.

It's ironic that the club who sent Newcastle down on that sunny day in May should find themselves in a similar situation three seasons later.

Aston Villa's fanbase has seemed disgruntled all season, and understandably so given the newly-stringent ownership of Randy Lerner and unpopular management of Alex McLeish.
McLeish has endured a disappointing first season at Villa Park
Attendances at Villa Park have dwindled and big-name players haven't performed, which has forced the club into a relegation battle.

Villa are currently six points above the drop zone with five games remaining, but should still have enough to survive.

However, if they were to go down, you wouldn't find too many tears for them on Tyneside.

Football fans have long memories and Newcastle fans certainly haven't forgotten how their relegation was celebrated by Villa fans in 2009.

They revelled in Newcastle's demise and came prepared for the game with banners including "Who's your next Messiah, Ant or Dec?" and "Sob on the Tyne".

Of course, most sets of supporters make the most of it when their team sends another down, but not many go to the trouble of preparing banners and celebrating in the way Villa fans did that day.

It would have been understandable if the clubs had been long-term rivals (which Villa and Newcastle weren't), but their taunts and 'banter' crossed the line.

However, things have changed dramatically since then and it is now Villa who find themselves battling relegation while Newcastle are the side in the top six of the Premier League, as Villa were that day.

The Toon Army's tears certainly flowed at Villa Park in 2009 but since then they have had a lot more to smile about than their Villa counterparts.

Ironically, Newcastle's success since relegation should show Villa that going down can mark the start of a new beginning.

It could be exactly what the club needs.

It would allow the likes of Gary Gardner, Marc Albrighton and Ciaran Clark to shine and gain confidence in the same way Newcastle's relegation did for Carroll et al.
The likes of Gardner could benefit from a season in the Championship
Villa fans are unlikely to see it that way though and will be desperate for their team to survive - which they should - but they won't be getting any sympathy from Newcastle supporters if they do drop into the Championship.

Magpies assistant manager John Carver this week described the reaction of Villa fans to Newcastle's relegation as "outrageous", and the Toon Army certainly had their chance to gain revenge and laugh at their counterparts when their side thumped Villa 6-0 last season.

Among the chants at St James' Park that day was "You're not laughing anymore" but that won't have been the end of the matter for many and it would give some real pleasure to see Villa fans suffer in the same way they did.

As a whole, Aston Villa is a great club and most of their supporters are loyal and fair, but the actions of some of their support in May 2009 have not been forgotten.

It would be sad to see a club of their stature languishing in the Championship but they had very little sympathy for Newcastle when they lost their place in the Premier League so shouldn't expect any now if they are to suffer the same fate.

Villa's next two fixtures - at home against Sunderland and Bolton - will be crucial in their attempt to remain a Premier League club and they should get enough from those games to see them safe.

If they do fail though, they would find themselves in exactly the same position Newcastle fell into three years ago.

It's doubtful Norwich fans would goad them on the final day in the same way Villa did to Newcastle in 2009 but Toon Army supporters at Everton on the same day would ensure they revelled in it.

That would be Karma personified.

25 comments:

  1. I would LOVE IT if Villa went down. LOVE IT!!

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  2. haha - As a Villa fan, i'm amazed by the hostility of Newcastle Fans.

    It was 'BANTER'. Get OVER IT. You were relegated and played poorly. You received some taunts etc. You deserved it.

    It amazes me that 3 years on the fans are still bitter about it. If Norwich goad us on the last day, I imagine most Villa fans would accept their fate (weve come to accept we are going nowhere).

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    1. go away you lost any neutral thought the day you all gloried in us going down, I hope you do another Leeds

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    2. I don't condone the action of our supporters it was a bit disrespectful I have nothing against Newcastle.

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  3. Wow Newcastle still can't get over that bit of banter can they? It was funny. If anything it was a compliment to how big a club Newcastle are. Villa fans wouldn't have bothered had it been Wigan. And who's to say it wouldn't have happened at any other ground? Or are Villa fans especially horrible? But after the Geordie fans jeered through Martin Laursen's farewell speech before the game, I was delighted to see them relegated.

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  4. I think most clubs fans would have done similar to Villa that day as most fans up and down the country are often astounded and the delussion of the newcastle fans over the year.

    End of the day was banter, get over it. Newcastle are flying now and good luck to them, would happily swap alan pardew for Mcleish any day...in fact i'd swap Alan Partridge for Mcleish come to that

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  5. Banter is singing and chanting songs taking the piss.

    Banner physically and verbally abusing people inside and outside the ground including on the train home which included young kids is not banter which most of you don't get and doubt most clubs would have gone to those sort of extents.

    The behavior that day I'd have expect from Sunderland being our biggest rivals not anyone else and that is why a lot of supporters are so bitter about that day.

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  6. You have to forgive them for mocking - they have nothing to cheer after all.

    I would hate it if Villa went down.

    It's the away fixture where you can always get tickets.

    Big stadium, Little club.

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    1. Even if we manage to stay up there will be even more tickets available next season if McMuppett is still manager!!!

      UTV

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  7. I think the reason that day still stings is that it hurts more to be laughed at when you are a laughing stock.

    Newcastle seemed to exist that year simply to act as a lightning rod for abuse and derision. What we would probably have been able to shrug off, or even laugh at, as banter in another year was deeply painful, because it was largely accurate.

    Villa could go down, but they cant come close to equallign the media fest flame out humiliation of Newcastle's relegation. The fact that Villa fans managed to make themselves a memorable part of that humiliation is probably largely chance, but that doesn't make more easilly forgotten.

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    1. they cant come close to equaling the media fest flame of NUFC's dire relegation season because villa aren't as big a club as NUFC hence no one really giving a fcuk whether they go down or not

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  8. Aston Villa are an absolutely pathetic club from top to bottom. Lerner promising the world then taking away the reins when they were on the brink of something special, that really was a master stroke from the inept Yank.

    I would be over the moon if that stupid manager takes them down and their owner decides to shut up shop, for too long we've heard Villa fans harp on about how great they are because of a few trophies 25 years ago. They're not great and they have nobody to catch them when they fall, they've dug their own grave and it's up to the other 19 teams in this league to make sure they cannot get out of it.

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  9. ..that 6-0 twatin' was enough.. very enjoyable day had by all, that dark day in bluemingham banished and revenge dished in the best possible way.. p.s. who's your next messiah.. prince william, nigel kennedy, jasper carrot.. hang on ..aint he a bluenose.. same as your manager..

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  10. I see Newcastle fans are still deluded then. How exactly are Newcastle a bigger club than Aston Villa? You seem convinced of it.

    I don't like to get into this childish "my club is bigger than yours" rubbish but you've made me.

    Simple facts will determine the truth.

    History and Tradition - Villa have won more trophies, founder members of both Football League and Premier League and just an overall more prestigious history.

    Fanbase and Stadium: Newcastle have a bigger stadium, and fill it with around 50,000 fans. But how hard is that when it's a one club city. Birmingham has THREE top clubs in Villa, Blues and West Brom but Villa can fill they're slightly smaller stadium with 42,000 fans when sold out.

    Any other criteria I've left out? I'm just dying to know why Newcastle fans think they're a bigger club.

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    1. 6th place Newcastle, 15th place Villa
      49660 (94.7%) average attendance Newcastle, 33923 (79.7%) Aston Villa.
      Mind you, you do have a high profile striker in Emille Heskey. Can't see Bent sticking in a lower mid table club much longer

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    2. Wow that's all you've got. Stats from this season. Incredible. I rest my case.

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    3. Sorry, I thought we were seeing who has the bigger club now, not 1986

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    4. Birmingham has a higher population than the entire north east region as a whole so playing the population card doesn't work either.

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    5. Aston Villa are a bigger Football club than Newcastle. plain and simple fact, anyone that argues this clearly must be about 10 years old.

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    6. Birmingham has a MUCH bigger population catchment than Newcastle, "one city team" arguements are always trundled out by Liverpool/Everton, Brum/Brom/Villa fans - but they simply don't hold water.

      If you actually look at attendances compared to local population, Newcastle and Sunderland are the best supported teams in the Premiership.

      Statistics mean nothing without context.

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  11. Champions of europe any1?

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    1. Don't forget Villa's 3 Division escapades too. Champions in 72, very prestigious!!. BONG BONG-LET'S ALL LAUGH AT VILLA, BONG BONG!!

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  12. You wont be so happy when Pardew accepts the England job within the next two weeks.

    Fans jeering Martin Laursen set the tone for the day, your fans got what they deserved, Laursen was a legend for us.... if you had a bad day out, I'm glad, you shouldn't have booed him.

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  13. yeah i can remember some motley Geordie goading 10 year old villa fans after they beat us at villa park a few years ago brave men grow up you pretentious twats

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